ORANGE COUNTY, Fla.,None — WFTV obtained transcripts Monday, of a call Casey Anthony's lawyer, Jose Baez, had with a state prison inmate who claimed she could discredit key witnesses against Casey, namely her prison pen pals.
READ: Baez's Conversation With Inmate VIDEO REPORT: Jail Conversation With Inmate
In the conversations Robin Lunceford talks about Caylee's murder case being the biggest case in Florida but said investigators really couldn't prove it.
During a conversation with Jose Baez, state inmate Robin Lunceford claimed two of Casey's jail friends, Maya Derkovic and Robyn Adams, made up incriminating stories about Casey.
Early on, Baez claimed he didn't know the phone calls were being recorded, but transcripts from those conversations show Baez actually talked to Lunceford about that.
"There is a lot of things that I will say over this phone but I can't. I can only say to you in person," Lunceford told Baez during the phone call.
"Okay," Baez replied.
"Okay, because these phones are recorded," Lunceford said.
"Okay," replied Baez.
With that knowledge, Baez and his secretary had conversations with Lunceford from state prison. She told them Derkovic and Adams concocted the stories they told detectives about Casey. Lunceford said, "Bottom line is this, she sit down with me, made up the whole murder… made up everything."
In an interview, Derkovic told WFTV what she told investigators.
"She would pour it on like a rag, a washrag and put it over the baby's face," Maya Derkovic told WFTV.
Robin Lunceford is known for associating herself in high-profile cases.
"Okay, bottom line, it's a lie. I can polygraph that. I sit with her when she made up this story, it's not true," Lunceford told Baez.
Despite being disciplined in the past for lying, using drugs, and attempting to commit conspiracy, Robin Lunceford maintains what she told Baez in the recorded conversation is true.
CASEY DEFENSE MOTION ON JAIL CALL DENIED
Chief Judge Belvin Perry denied the defense's motion Monday in the case against Casey Anthony, to keep a jail phone call between Jose Baez and another inmate, private.
The judge said Baez was notified that his phone call with Robin Lunceford was being recorded, despite his claim that he didn't remember being warned.
The defense says Lunceford has proof that two other inmates made up lies about Casey Anthony.
The judge's motion does not say when the call will be released.
CAYLEE'S 5TH BIRTHDAY REMEMBERED
Caylee Marie Anthony would have turned five years old Monday. Caylee's remains were found on December 11, 2008, in a wooded area near the home where she lived with her mother and grandparents on Suburban Drive.
CAYLEE WITH CASEY: Slideshow #1 | #2
Her mother, Casey Anthony, who is accused of killing Caylee, is in the Orange County jail charged with first-degree murder. Now, the lawyers defending Casey Anthony are getting ready to head back to court.
On Wednesday, Casey's defense team is scheduled to depose several witnesses including her ex-fiance, Jesse Grund.
Casey's parents, George and Cindy Anthony asked detectives to investigate Grund as a suspect after Casey allegedly told them she didn't trust him.
The defense will also question the medical examiner who determined Caylee had been murdered.
CASEY CASE EMAILS SHOW PLAN TO SELL MADE UP STORIES
Wild stories emerged Thursday in the case against Casey. Newly-released documents show the private eye who was supposed to find Caylee Anthony alive was relying on tips from psychics and making up stories to tell reporters.
SLIDESHOW: Select Images From Latest Letters DOCUMENTS: More Letters To Casey | Dozens Of Emails MADE-UP STORIES: Read P.I.'s Emailed Caylee Stories CINDY'S LETTERS: Casey's Fall | Mail Fraud | Betrayed VIDEO REPORTS: Emails Released | Cindy Writes Casey PREVIOUS LETTERS: Set 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 (huge files)
Over 2,400 pages of documents were released Thursday afternoon. They include more letters to Casey Anthony in jail (read letters) and hundreds of pages of emails (read emails) involving private eye Dominic Casey and psychic Ginny Lucas. A lot of the emails discussed where Caylee might have been and who she was with.
At least one of the emails shows that a psychic was making up a fantastic story to explain how someone kidnapped Caylee to Venezuela (read it), a story the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, was apparently helping defense attorney Jose Baez sell to Geraldo Rivera; and Geraldo was apparently planning to go there.
Dominic Casey was cooking up stories with psychics about what happened to Caylee in the months before her remains were found in the woods near her house. One psychic and Mr. Casey came up with this scenario: Caylee was flown by private jet from Orlando Executive Airport to Puerto Rico; from there, she was taken to Colombia and then to Venezuela.
The back story they came up with was that Caylee's mother, Casey, had witnessed some major drug buy involving a Puerto Rican mob and that they threatened to harm Caylee if Casey snitched. The psychic told Mr. Casey to fill in the timelines and asked whether the story seemed too far fetched.
Mr. Casey told the psychic that Casey's defense team was planning to sell the story to Geraldo.
The psychic also came up with a convoluted scenario to tie the murder of Orange County newlywed Nicole Ganguzza to Caylee's disappearance, suggesting Ganguzza witnessed a confrontation between Casey and her friend Kiomarie at Blanchard Park over Caylee. He went on to suggest that Kiomarie's friends murdered Ganguzza and put her body in Casey's trunk to hide it.
The emails show Mr. Casey's tips mostly came from psychics.
Mr. Casey had disparaging names for defense attorney Jose Baez and bounty hunter Leonard Padilla. Baez says the lies drove him to cut ties with Mr. Casey. And, even though Mr. Casey was making up leads in the case, he was apparently taking himself very seriously.
MORE LETTERS RELEASED, INCLUDING FROM CINDY
Dozens more letters sent to Casey Anthony behind bars (read them) were released among 2,400 pages of documents Thursday, including a few from her mom, Cindy.
Cindy letter to Casey CLOSE for BLURB 080510 SLIDESHOW: Images From Letters READ THEM: Letters To Casey CINDY LETTERS: Fall | Fraud | Betrayed For some reason, Cindy Anthony apparently sent mail to Casey at the Orange County jail using Casey's defense attorney's office address as her return address, trying to make it look like privileged defense correspondence, but no one fell for it.
Cindy wrote to Casey about her fall in the elevator at the Orange County courthouse two months ago where Casey chipped a tooth (Casey's statement | images | raw video). Cindy said she had a bad feeling earlier that day.
"So so sorry for your accident. I felt very worried and uneasy earlier that morning. I was worried that something was going to happen to you. I almost felt some relief when Jose told me you fell," Cindy wrote in the letter dated June 7, 2010 (read it). "I'm so glad you were able to get your tooth fixed. You have the same broken one I do and stitches in your lip just like Lee."
Cindy wrote that they have always been in tune with one another and that, even with "unanswered questions," she knows who Casey really is and says Casey is too trusting. She claims, a year and a half after she accepted DNA tests identifying Caylee's remains and held a funeral service, that she still doesn't believe Caylee is dead.
Cindy sent several letters using defense attorney Jose Baez's office address as her return address, even going so far as writing "legal mail do not open" on one of them. The jail didn't fall for it and opened it anyway.
Cindy was angry that she was called out for it and later wrote to Casey: "They must think I'm really stupid. Why would I send you a card and put another address besides mine on it?"
A month after the first release of the Anthonys' letters to Casey, apparently Cindy wrote another one to her, on July 25, less than two weeks ago, telling Casey how much she supports her, wants to hear from her and believes in her innocence.
ROY KRONK QUESTIONED BY CASEY'S DEFENSE TEAM
Casey Anthony's defense team questioned former meter reader Roy Kronk under oath Friday. Kronk is the man who found Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods near her house months after she disappeared.
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Roy Kronk is a key prosecution witness and the defense wants to discredit him. The defense is trying to make connections between the duct tape that was found layered over Caylee's face and the man who found her.
But Kronk said the defense's theory doesn't make sense. Roy Kronk has faced rumor and ridicule since he found Caylee Marie Anthony.
Investigators say her mother, Casey Anthony, dumped her body in the woods near her house hoping she'd never be found.
Still, Kronk said he'd do it again.
"Doing the right thing is its own reward," Kronk told WFTV.
The rumor and ridicule have come from Casey's lawyers through Kronk's ex-wives, who speculated he could be the murderer.
Kronk's ex-wife, who was arrested for check fraud, accused him of binding her with duct tape.
"He wound up beating me in front of his father. He duct-taped my hands," Kronk's ex-wife Jill Kerley said in a video.
He denies it, but the defense wants people to believe Kronk, who had no connection to Caylee when she was alive, murdered her, then instead of keeping quiet to stay in the clear, brought attention to himself by calling law enforcement with the claim that he just found her.
"Does it even make any sense when you think it through that people would believe this?" WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked Kronk's attorney David Evans.
"I think your question suggests the answer. Of course it doesn't make any sense. So that'll be their burden if they even get an opportunity, which I doubt they will get an opportunity to try to convince a jury of this. Have at it," Evans said.
The defense hasn't backed off its claim that Kronk should be a suspect.
"We're going to find out exactly what happened. There's a lot of statements that we're concerned about and we're hoping Mr. Kronk will tell the truth," Baez told WFTV.
The defense filed court documents saying Kronk should be a suspect. Kronk says he's been telling the truth.
The defense wants a jury to hear Kronk's ex-wives' claims, but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer agrees with Kronk's lawyer that it's highly improbable that the judge would allow that.
The defense canceled Friday's depositions of Casey's ex-fiance Jesse Grund and his father, but has rescheduled them for August 11.
The defense has also scheduled depositions with seven investigators from the sheriff's and medical examiner's offices for August and September.
Previous Stories: August 9, 2010: Caylee's 5th Birthday Remembered August 6, 2010: Casey Case Emails Show Plan To Sell Made Up Stories August 2, 2010: Casey Defense Motion On Jail Call Denied July 30, 2010: Roy Kronk Questioned By Casey's Defense Team July 29, 2010: Jose Baez May Lose $670K Kissimmee Home July 28, 2010: Casey's Parents Save Home From Foreclosure July 27, 2010: Criticism For Casey's Attorney Over Jail Call July 23, 2010: Casey Attorneys Back Off Claims Against EquuSearch July 23, 2010: Casey Anthony Broke, Owes Jail Over $40 July 22, 2010: Casey Judge Gets Recorded Prison Calls July 20, 2010: State Ordered To Turn In Recorded Conversations In Casey Case July 19, 2010: Casey's Defense Investigating George Anthony July 16, 2010: Casey's Attorney Hanging Hopes On Inmate July 16, 2010: Judge Denies Motion, Allows Cindy's 911 Calls July 14, 2010: Casey's Defense Wants More Testing On Evidence July 13, 2010: Casey's Lawyers Begin Evidence Examination July 12, 2010: Deadline Set In Casey Case For Release Of List
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